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	<title>Comments on: 5 Pros and Cons of Appcelerator&#8217;s Titanium</title>
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		<title>By: Top 10 Free Android App Development Tools - B6G.NET&#124; for all information technology</title>
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		<dc:creator>Top 10 Free Android App Development Tools - B6G.NET&#124; for all information technology</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] is the number one solution for mobile development Cross-platform, which is used by more than 250,000 mobile developers , and 35,000 applications.Mobincube programYou can develop an Android application online for free [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Top 10 des outils de développement d&#039;applications Android gratuits - imilchile</title>
		<link>https://enricoangelini.com/2012/5-pros-and-cons-of-appcelerators-titanium/#comment-357</link>
		<dc:creator>Top 10 des outils de développement d&#039;applications Android gratuits - imilchile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2022 13:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] est la solution de développement mobile multiplateforme numéro un utilisée par plus de 250 000 développeurs mobileset 35 000 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Carlos</title>
		<link>https://enricoangelini.com/2012/5-pros-and-cons-of-appcelerators-titanium/#comment-332</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2018 22:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally agree, Appcelerator is crap!

TFS is not working properly by Appcelerator studio. I mean even the most basic stuff is not working with this framework, React Native is 100 times better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree, Appcelerator is crap!</p>
<p>TFS is not working properly by Appcelerator studio. I mean even the most basic stuff is not working with this framework, React Native is 100 times better.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Johnson</title>
		<link>https://enricoangelini.com/2012/5-pros-and-cons-of-appcelerators-titanium/#comment-330</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2018 19:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the end I chose Backendless (https://backendless.com) for my backend. The service has native SDKs for all major mobile and web platforms. The usability and developer experience is by far the best I have seen. The service has an extremely flexible server-side code model where I can deploy Java and JS server-side code to override default handling of the API and to create my own API services. My apps leverage social (Facebook, Twitter, Google) login, geolocation, file upload/download, push notifications (iOS, Android) and of course data persistence, which has really awesome support for complex relations. Check it out if you are looking for a flexible and very reasonably priced backend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the end I chose Backendless (<a href="https://backendless.com" rel="nofollow">https://backendless.com</a>) for my backend. The service has native SDKs for all major mobile and web platforms. The usability and developer experience is by far the best I have seen. The service has an extremely flexible server-side code model where I can deploy Java and JS server-side code to override default handling of the API and to create my own API services. My apps leverage social (Facebook, Twitter, Google) login, geolocation, file upload/download, push notifications (iOS, Android) and of course data persistence, which has really awesome support for complex relations. Check it out if you are looking for a flexible and very reasonably priced backend.</p>
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		<title>By: 10 Best Mobile App Building Platforms &#124;</title>
		<link>https://enricoangelini.com/2012/5-pros-and-cons-of-appcelerators-titanium/#comment-328</link>
		<dc:creator>10 Best Mobile App Building Platforms &#124;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2017 12:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Cristti</title>
		<link>https://enricoangelini.com/2012/5-pros-and-cons-of-appcelerators-titanium/#comment-317</link>
		<dc:creator>Cristti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2015 17:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you forgot to mention something...IS NOT WORKING. At first I was a fan of appcelerator&#039;s products, but since they switched to appcelerator studio everything is messed up. you cannot build your project, it has troubles finding your android sdk. It&#039;s a lost of time</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you forgot to mention something&#8230;IS NOT WORKING. At first I was a fan of appcelerator&#8217;s products, but since they switched to appcelerator studio everything is messed up. you cannot build your project, it has troubles finding your android sdk. It&#8217;s a lost of time</p>
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		<title>By: lcp</title>
		<link>https://enricoangelini.com/2012/5-pros-and-cons-of-appcelerators-titanium/#comment-316</link>
		<dc:creator>lcp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2015 12:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phonegap is the perfect tool conceptually but in practice it is slow and most of the time won&#039;t fit the requirement for an average app.

I&#039;ve used Titanium in some project and it was not that bad.
Decent use of js and commonjs is required and either being aware of target platform limitations &amp; features.
Basically if you know enough of native mobile apps, Titanium is great.

Debugging can be complex and the debugger is limited. Again a lot depend on how the code is structured.

With Tishadow the development is fast and satisfying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phonegap is the perfect tool conceptually but in practice it is slow and most of the time won&#8217;t fit the requirement for an average app.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve used Titanium in some project and it was not that bad.<br />
Decent use of js and commonjs is required and either being aware of target platform limitations &amp; features.<br />
Basically if you know enough of native mobile apps, Titanium is great.</p>
<p>Debugging can be complex and the debugger is limited. Again a lot depend on how the code is structured.</p>
<p>With Tishadow the development is fast and satisfying.</p>
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		<title>By: SMC</title>
		<link>https://enricoangelini.com/2012/5-pros-and-cons-of-appcelerators-titanium/#comment-312</link>
		<dc:creator>SMC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2015 14:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>amen</description>
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		<title>By: Stefan</title>
		<link>https://enricoangelini.com/2012/5-pros-and-cons-of-appcelerators-titanium/#comment-311</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2015 23:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Titanium Mobile sucks hard. I have tried it years ago building 3 apps in it. One app took me 3 months to develop, while it planned on doing it in one month. In the end I felt like a complete idiot, thinking I was just a bad programmer, while in fact Titanium Mobile is has very poor native implementations. 

I remember making a tableview and in the end it was so slow that I desperately created a custom tableview and put it in a webview. I got blazing performance after doing so. The memory management in Titanium sucks so hard I cannot even begin to describe it. 

Also the forum and everybody on it is constantly down playing the bad things, like oh you just have to do it like this and in the end it doesn&#039;t work. 

It has major flaws. The funny thing is, people claim it is native, it is freaking not native! It has a custom view engine for crying out loud. It sucks really really hard. They claim it is css based, it is not. The attribute names might be css like, but it is not even close to CSS, because it renders differently. The positioning of the views is completely different than that of CSS. So you have to learn that first before you can effectively use it, and there is NO documentation on it, other than a few crappy blog items from people being paid by some share holder. 

Bug fixes are terribly slow. If you encounter a bug in the Titanium framework, you better not expect to get any help soon. Some developer will look into it next month and it will be available in the next release. In the real world you don&#039;t have a freaking month to waste! Time is money. Also, issues remain open for months and sometimes won&#039;t get fixed at all. It is so slow, it is painful and very frustrating. 

I have a question for all politically right Titanium users; why would you invest in something that is created by one crappy company over for ex. Phonegap, which is HTML5, JS and CSS based. Technologies that have been developed for years. It won&#039;t make any sense, not to go for Phonegap (or go fully native). These technologies have been optimized to perform in a web browser. And looking at skills, most developers have these skills already. This won&#039;t put your projects at risk. 

My opinion is that Titanium is just too much of a good thing, it is just trying to implement all native features in one overrated framework. It doesn&#039;t make sense. Phonegap on the other hand is just the things that need to be implemented, like camera access etc. are available through javascript. The rest is just browser based and has good performance compared to titanium. Speed of implementation is much faster with Phonegap. Custom layouts are easier to make compared to the crap view rending engine of Titanium. It is a waste of time! 

Because the company still exists, doesn&#039;t mean it is a good framework or company. It just has a share holder that doesn&#039;t want negative attention or too much annoyed users on the forum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Titanium Mobile sucks hard. I have tried it years ago building 3 apps in it. One app took me 3 months to develop, while it planned on doing it in one month. In the end I felt like a complete idiot, thinking I was just a bad programmer, while in fact Titanium Mobile is has very poor native implementations. </p>
<p>I remember making a tableview and in the end it was so slow that I desperately created a custom tableview and put it in a webview. I got blazing performance after doing so. The memory management in Titanium sucks so hard I cannot even begin to describe it. </p>
<p>Also the forum and everybody on it is constantly down playing the bad things, like oh you just have to do it like this and in the end it doesn&#8217;t work. </p>
<p>It has major flaws. The funny thing is, people claim it is native, it is freaking not native! It has a custom view engine for crying out loud. It sucks really really hard. They claim it is css based, it is not. The attribute names might be css like, but it is not even close to CSS, because it renders differently. The positioning of the views is completely different than that of CSS. So you have to learn that first before you can effectively use it, and there is NO documentation on it, other than a few crappy blog items from people being paid by some share holder. </p>
<p>Bug fixes are terribly slow. If you encounter a bug in the Titanium framework, you better not expect to get any help soon. Some developer will look into it next month and it will be available in the next release. In the real world you don&#8217;t have a freaking month to waste! Time is money. Also, issues remain open for months and sometimes won&#8217;t get fixed at all. It is so slow, it is painful and very frustrating. </p>
<p>I have a question for all politically right Titanium users; why would you invest in something that is created by one crappy company over for ex. Phonegap, which is HTML5, JS and CSS based. Technologies that have been developed for years. It won&#8217;t make any sense, not to go for Phonegap (or go fully native). These technologies have been optimized to perform in a web browser. And looking at skills, most developers have these skills already. This won&#8217;t put your projects at risk. </p>
<p>My opinion is that Titanium is just too much of a good thing, it is just trying to implement all native features in one overrated framework. It doesn&#8217;t make sense. Phonegap on the other hand is just the things that need to be implemented, like camera access etc. are available through javascript. The rest is just browser based and has good performance compared to titanium. Speed of implementation is much faster with Phonegap. Custom layouts are easier to make compared to the crap view rending engine of Titanium. It is a waste of time! </p>
<p>Because the company still exists, doesn&#8217;t mean it is a good framework or company. It just has a share holder that doesn&#8217;t want negative attention or too much annoyed users on the forum.</p>
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		<title>By: jayesh</title>
		<link>https://enricoangelini.com/2012/5-pros-and-cons-of-appcelerators-titanium/#comment-303</link>
		<dc:creator>jayesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2014 07:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes i am available for projects in titanium remotely.
email : jnj.idr@gmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes i am available for projects in titanium remotely.<br />
email : <a href="mailto:jnj.idr@gmail.com">jnj.idr@gmail.com</a></p>
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